John wrote:

 I favour the old Websters definitions.  Anything else is Orwellian Newspeak. I’m deliberate when I describe it so, because avianitarian spun out of (USA) interpretations of CITES and enablement of US laws, spruiking CITES as their justifucation.  These are OF the USA and FOR the USA.

CHERANE WRITES:

yes, me tooo..imagine how CC  felt when told the ‘new world’ was square by those who remain unchanged by the new adventurous CC.

CITES  Wild Bird Conservation Act 1992 has had almost twenty years duration with positive results such as the wild birds for the U.S. pet trade have stayed in the wild with some heavty statistics to this effect of the WBCA. 

You wrote “avianitarian spun out of (USA) interpretations of CITES and enablement of US laws, spruiking CITES as their justifucation.”

Cherane writes:

Study the statistics of birds that remain in the wild and not in the pet trade.  We, Avianitarians supply the pet trade and captive breeding programs.

I certainly hope so for we need to look seriously at our role regarding the exotic birds and CITES. We need to  make a stand for the wild exotic birds by enhancing good laws with support from the Avianitarian or the bird keeper of the birds we have in captivity and other matters concerning conservation and captive bird management.  We can be active and heard instead of having others make our  plot in avian management.

CITES (the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) is an international agreement between governments. Its aim is to ensure that international trade in specimens of wild animals and plants does not threaten their survival.

 

John wrote:

US domestic bird law/politics should have no impact or influence on bird breeders, aviculturists, elsewhere in the world.  (Nor hopefully, the Queen’s English )

 CHERANE WRITES:

“The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) is an international agreement between governments. Its aim is to ensure that international trade in specimens of wild animals and plants does not threaten their survival.”FURTHERMORE:“CITES was drafted as a result of a resolution adopted in 1963 at a meeting of members of IUCN (The World Conservation Union). The text of the Convention was finally agreed at a meeting of representatives of 80 countries in Washington DC., United States of America, on 3 March 1973, and on 1 July 1975 CITES entered in force. The original of the Convention was deposited with the Depositary Government in the Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish languages, each version being equally authentic.CITES is an international agreement to which States (countries) adhere voluntarily. States that have agreed to be bound by the Convention (‘joined’ CITES) are known as Parties. Although CITES is legally binding on the Parties – in other words they have to implement the Convention – it does not take the place of national laws. Rather it provides a framework to be respected by each Party, which has to adopt its own domestic legislation to ensure that CITES is implemented at the national level.For many years CITES has been among the conservation agreements with the largest membership, with now 175 Parties. “

 
But it does seem that the impact of Google and US trade/trade bans always, rightly or wrongly, have global ripple effects.